Speaker:  Indradyumna Swami
Source:  Indradyumna Swami with Srila Prabhupada

Indradyumna Swami: “Srila Prabhupada you’ve mentioned several times in recent lectures that a pure devotee can see Krsna everywhere – that He’s never out of your vision. And at the same time in Siksastakam prayers Lord Chaitanya explains that, Govinda, I am feeling Your separation to be 12 years of more. I am feeling vacant in His absence.’ Could you explain this?”
Srila Prabhupada: “Yes. He’s playing how you can become mad without seeing Krsna. That is higher stage. It cannot be explained. But when you gradually go higher you’ll